What I hate about finding pants to fit
- Camel Toe
- Crotch Pouch
- Wedgies
- Saggy Butt
- Drag lines
It’s almost impossible for some women to find trousers that fit well. It’s most commonly an issue with woven fabrics, rather than knit as there is no stretch that can cheat the fit to be better than it is. But poorly designed trousers will still fit poorly, they just won’t look quite so bad.
Women’s bodies are so varied in their shape. Defined waists and undefined waists, slimmer thighs and fuller thighs, rounded bottom or flatter bottom, high bottom or lower set bottom, longer rise or shorter rise …. so many things to consider and so it’s completely understandable that trousers are tricky to fit.
One of my wonderful 7 Steppers Susanne, has done copious amounts of research into her own pant-fit-woes and provided me with some great photos to illustrate this post. Just like most women, she finds trousers hard to fit and has her own unique body issues too!
So why are pants so hard to fit?
The short story is that some people are more elliptical/oval in cross-section (elliptical lateral body shape) and others are more round/circular (round lateral body shape).
It is easier and cheaper, however, to make clothes for elliptical people. You can fit more pattern pieces onto the fabric, which makes production costs cheaper and so is more favoured by the retailers as it improves profit margins, but makes a more poorly fitting garment!
What you have to remember, is that fashion brands and garment factories are in the business of making money, not making clothes that will fit and flatter your unique body!
So the factory with the contract to make pants for a designer has to meet the specified size measurements, but they might make adjustments to make more pattern pieces fit onto the fabric. Taking an inch off of the outer hip and putting it onto the center seam will do it, and ensure that the pants have the expected measurements. One side effect, however, is that the center seam is now a different length, so the customer may get a wedgie, camel toe, or crotch pouch depending on her shape.
And then there is the question of what body the designer is designing for versus your body.
In Susanne’s case her butt is lower and flatter than most pants are designed to accommodate, so there is too much fabric between butt and knees in the back. Think of it as having a B cup butt, and pants are mostly made for a D cup butt. This creates drag lines of excess fabric in the back of the thighs.
My recommendation is to make a commitment to try on pants until you find ones that fit, even if you end up having to buy very expensive pants.
Take photos from the rear. If they have drag lines in the back (like the photos featured here, or maybe in some other arrangement), then the pants don’t fit right. Or learn to make your own pants. Both options are frustrating and take a lot of work. You could also give up and wear skirts.
The Shape of the Rise
What chance have you got of finding a pair of trousers to fit? One thing you can do to get a better idea of what you personally need in a pant is to figure out what shape rise you need.
To do this, turn your pant inside out and put one pant leg through the other and then look at the U shape seam that is created from the front to back (that’s the front and back rise seams that goes between your legs when wearing the pant).
You will notice in the image above that one pair of pants has a much narrower U shape seam than the other. Which suits you will be dependent on your butt shape and body!
But if you know, then before you try on pants, you can do this quick trick and check out the pants you’re considering buying by doing this is store before you bother to take them to the change rooms, if it looks narrow and you need wide (or the other way around) you can leave them behind and not waste your time!
Waistband Construction
If you should be so talented as to be able to make your own pants, this is a tip I picked up from a tailor friend to have a pair of pants that are easy to take in or let out and to have fit more easily. It comes from the way men’s suit pants are made. Notice how the seam on the top right photo below goes through the waistband down the back of the pants – this means you don’t have to take the waistband off the pants to make an adjustment to the size, allowing you to take them in or let them out more easily.
Flat Butt Tip
Then check out the pants bottom left (above) and you will see there is a seam that goes down the middle of the back of the legs from the waistband – this allows you to take in through the leg, under the seat (bottom) which is really handy if you happen to have a rather flat bottom and you get pooling below the seat where there is excess fabric because there is nothing to fill it.
Stretch in your pants makes this much easier as you can buy a little tighter so you don’t get the sag – this is why I wear only pants with stretch in them these days!
Great Pant Fit Resources
If you are a sewer, or just want to understand more about pant fit and what’s wrong with your trousers and where they don’t fit – I’ve found a few great resources for you.
Closet Case Patterns – fitting adjustment (brilliant for anyone who sews or wants to know what can be done)
5 out of 4 – Pant Fitting Guide – this is worth reading – just to see where all the pant fit issues are and what they are caused by – great illustrations
Fashion Incubator – anatomy of camel toe – if this is your problem – you’ll find out why and part 2
Photos in trousers by Susanne Moskalaski
Thanks, this was a very informative post, Imogen.
I’m going to try the tip about checking rise shape by putting one pant leg inside the other. I finally found a store that sells trousers/pants in tall lengths and for curvy women and don’t buy jeans or work pants anywhere else now. So I can’t wait to see what they’re doing compared to some of my older less better fitting jeans from other retailers.
Why do we never hear of men complaining about not getting pants to fit? Is it that men are more uniformly shaped, there’s more variety in fits, or that retailers construct men’s clothes better as your tailor friend’s trick indicates? or do most men not care?
Lastly, I really struggle to understand what you mean by elliptical or circular lateral shape.
Men have less curve in their body – so they are heaps easier to fit (they don’t have defined waists or larger hips or thighs or saddlebags or…. plus they make pants differently too – they make them to be altered really easily and cheaply!
This is an impressively comprehensive post about pants-fitting problems and solutions. I am happy to say that after much toil I fitted a pants pattern that flatters me from every angle. It ranks right up there with my top achievements in life, almost! So to other readers, if you have any inclination to sew, it is definitely worth a try to fit a pants pattern. Or look for someone whose brain is adept at imagining three-dimensional objects (mine is not), preferably a patternmaker, and pay to have a pattern fitted. Pants construction is pretty straightforward. I am thrilled to be able to spend my time shopping for beautiful fabrics and custom-making pants rather than be a discouraged ready-to-wear shopper.
I make my own trousers, but they still don’t fit perfectly. On the course I learnt that pants are the most difficult piece of clothing to construct. And in some cases it is not possible to attain a perfect fit, I mean you could have perfect fit but you may not be able to move.
I started sewing precisely because finding pants that fit was such a drama- and I like to wear pants.
Learning to fit the pants was a drama too, but one worth enduring.
I would also observe that fabrics play a huge role in how pants fit. I have made pants with the same pattern. Different weaves and fibre contents have a big effect on how the pattern fits. It’s a constant learning curve!
So true – stretch fabrics are very different from wovens – and even within these categories the weight and drape will really influence how the pants fit!
Please please please tell us the name of your store with tall-curvy clothes. SO hard to find tall AND curvy.
I have an X shaped body, but altered by surgery. I have a balanced, short mid-body type body too. If I buy a “high” rise pair of jeans they fit well, but as I move, they slide down and then the crotch of the pants is below mine. I end up pulling them up all of the time even with a tight belt. I noticed online that is a common complaint with jeans that have spandex in them. They stretch out and slide down. I wish I could find someone to sew me my jeans to fit me.
You may want to try one of these kinds of elastic belts https://insideoutstyleblog.com/2019/10/the-hidden-belt-to-hold-up-your-jeans.html
Hi Imogen,
Thanks for the suggestion. I do have the elastic belts too – I love them, but they don’t fix it either. Some pants stay up, others fall down. I have a feeling it has to do with elliptical vs round shape. I am going to try and figure it out. I have one pair of jeans that is boot style and lower rise that stays up, but others don’t. I have mid rise and high rise – it doesn’t seem to matter on the rise whether they stay up or not.
I’m another one who has decided to sew her own rather than continually fight in the store.
Last year, I decided to concentrate on just a few patterns. I started with Burda and Jalie and Neue Mode for pants/shorts, and chose cut and rise to make me happiest: stretch woven, non-stretch woven, jean style, trouser style. Now I have 3 patterns that fit pretty darn well and can play with leg shape to my hearts content (what to do with all my OTHER pant patterns? donate?)
Now I have to find the best ponte that holds up to friction (not the easiest to track down)!
It isn’t easy, but my nice, roomy pockets alone almost make the entire process worthwhile.
Wow sounds like you’ve gotten your pants problems sorted – and yes donate the pants that don’t fit because I bet you’re not wearing them anymore (or if there is enough fabric you could potentially remake them to fit)